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Fuck, is Lemmy all tankies now?
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Libtears mmm yummy
what? tankies are weirdo liberals…
Well idk about what or who are these tankies, but you are looking like a joke in this thread.
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false trichotomy. Like… super false, to the point of being nonsensical. I never even claimed to be anti-communist, but tankies are really stupid communists whose main theory is not “communism is good” but “the west is always wrong, more often than a broken clock.”
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Who the fuck taught you how politics works? liberals are left wing, tankies are radical left, fascists are radical right,
A marxist or a leninist is a type of communist, whereas a tankie pretends to care about communism while really only caring about talking about how the west is always wrong, and always the worst thing about the world, and how Russia, China, and the Middle East are always fine and can never do anything wrong (especially in comparison to the west).
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Communism is a different economic theory.
tankies are opposed to every single thing about the west. If Joe Biden said that pizza tasted good, tankies would stop eating it.
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I said weird communists. Communists who are less concerned with communism and more concerned with a stupid, simplistic, geographic theory of international politics.
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international politics is complicated. No one perspective is right, especially not one as simplistic as “west bad Russia good China good”
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my god, tankies just assume everybody who disagrees with them is a total idiot. my god, fuck off.
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I gave you an answer, you just can’t comprehend the concept of engaging in critical thinking instead of following a one-sentence philosophy.
Tankies are a weird type of communist who doesn’t care about communism. I don’t care about communism much, myself. I think Tankies are dumb as hell for their shitty international political perspective. I still don’t care about communism in general, it’s a fine economic and political theory that hasn’t ever really been executed, I’d be curious to see it happen. I’m not an anti-communist, or a pro-communist, or even a US apologist, there are plenty of legitimate criticisms of the US, but tankies are just so god damn stupid, acting like the US is the source of all evil and Putin is a fucking saint, it’s really ridiiculous.
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you realize that you’re making assumptions about me based on the fact that I think you’re stupid, placing me in a category, and then insulting me based on membership in that category you assume I’m a part of?
I’ve expressed opposition to the US a bunch here. This thread is asking “why don’t people love Putin right now,” like it’s confusing. This thread is about Putin and Russia, and you tankies just don’t know how to talk about that topic because it’d require you to accept that somebody east of Ukraine or Israel can do something wrong.
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lmao libs truly have only two things going on in their head, and they’re starting to confuse them.
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/china-xinjiang-uighur-muslim-detention-camps-xi-jinping-persecution-a9165896.html
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_internment_camps
Linking to fucking wikipedia is the dumbest shit you did today
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/human-rights-situation-in-xinjiang-china-joint-statement-at-the-un-on-behalf-of-50-countries
https://unric.org/en/china-responsible-for-serious-human-rights-violations-in-xinjiang-province-un-human-rights-report/
https://www.hrw.org/news/2021/04/19/china-crimes-against-humanity-xinjiang
https://www.csis.org/features/combatting-human-rights-abuses-xinjiang
Your first link is just a bunch of puppets of the USA saying they are concerned about the alleged genocide. I assume the rest is shitty evidence too
https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/08/1125932
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/05/25/china-xinjiang-uyghur-human-rights/
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/05/25/china-xinjiang-uyghur-human-rights/
https://gwjusticejournal.com/2022/06/08/chinas-human-rights-violations-in-xinjiang/
http://www.sirjournal.org/blogs/2018/12/25/chinas-xinjiang-camps-human-rights-violations-and-international-interference
http://www.sirjournal.org/blogs/2018/12/25/chinas-xinjiang-camps-human-rights-violations-and-international-interference
https://www.icij.org/investigations/china-cables/xinjiang-police-files-uyghur-mugshots-detention/
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-8df450b3-5d6d-4ed8-bdcc-bd99137eadc3
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/24/china-imprisoning-uighurs-satellite-images-xinjiang
Thanks for the sources, I find this one particularly interesting. I’ll need to look into it more carefully, since we already know there’s a great deal of manipulation around this issue.
Edit: tl;dr: “we have extremely hard evidence that the Chinese authorities are putting people in prison for breaking the law”.
That’s the website that uses AI generated pictures for their “prisoners list”. Linked to the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation which not only decided to count all COVID deaths as victims of communism in 2020, but was literally started by people active in Nazi organisations.
Like this guy’s picture at the bottom:
There used to be pictures of people in the same exact clothes, pulling the same exact pose, in the exact same background just with a different face but they seem to have removed those pictures after people caught on. edit: https://old.reddit.com/r/ShitLiberalsSay/comments/uy02ya/why_yes_i_totally_believe_the_xinjiang_police/
A bit late but yeah.
Thank you! I eventually found out about the AI-generated pictures. I know it’s weird on my part to listen to libs like that, but they always turn out wrong, so whatever… In this case I was pointing out that, even if what the webpage said was right, they weren’t claiming anything special.
We can go even deeper on the sources OP gave (what a shock the “don’t be mean” beehaw users act like mouthpieces for imperialism).
The ICIJ, despite its grand sounding name, is a CIA op. They were the ones who published the Pandora papers which were much smaller in size than the Panama papers (for which actual journalists died) and did not name any USians. None.
They’re an op to catch whistle-blowers essentially.
The BBC has long abandoned any non-partisan standing and some of their subsidiaries got their journalism licenses revoked by the UK gov because they are not journalists. I think there is a specific act that completely changed the BBC from being a public news broadcaster to simply a public broadcaster. I’d have to look for it.
The Guardian despite their “lefty” (self) claim is consistently against anything progressive. When corbyn was being smeared by the media for “anti semitism” (a claim which has now backfired on Labour and their Jewish constituents), they happily ran with the claims and amplified them. I have literally never seen any guardian article that wasn’t actually neoliberal propaganda. They’re at best a Blairite rag.
I’m surprised they didn’t cite Wikipedia lol
They aren’t concentration camps. The area had an issue with terrorist attacks, so the Chinese government being marxist leninists used materialist analysis to determine that poverty caused people to turn to violent ideologies, so they worked extra hard to give the people in the area an education, these centers they went to were essentially just schools, not concentration camps. In addition to this they worked on improving the infrastructure in the area.
Also something most people don’t know is that these extremist groups were recruiting people on Facebook and the CPC asked facebook to do something about it and they refused, so then China banned Facebook from the country.
Mandatory schools where doctors can go to learn how to be involuntary unskilled laborers and praise Xi Jingping all day long.
Forced reeducation camps -> forced labor. Calling that a concentration camp is pretty fair.
Nice title, something like “did you stopped beating your wife” ಠ_ಠ
Yeah wtf kind of question is that
Extremely uncompelling evidence.
This is just a bunch of google earth screenshots and shots of buildings from a car this guy’s lazy as fuck. Fuck off fed
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