I got banned from reddit (honestly feel a lot better without it)

But I miss being able to answer stupid questions and relationship questions.

Lemmy is great, but why aren’t there that many people on here? I don’t get it.

An I using my filters wrong or something?

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I leaved Google and Reddit in last two days. Continue my devalleyzation (Silicon Valley).

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Congratulations, keep up the good work. One day you’ll run a custom operating system on your phone and your own social network on the internet if you want. :D

Just reading this gives me a happy rush

Yeah personally I have enjoyed grapheneos

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What Browser do you use now?

Firefox is best!

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Facts

And searx for searching.

Social media is “winner takes all”. People go to where other people are. It’s very hard to break out of that.

For the same reason a lot of people prefer cities over towns.

Very nice analogy

Also I think not having a huge amount of content is a drawback. Users are looking for that (including me).

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Yea dude same. Even when I sort by new, they are the same posts

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I sort by “top day”, that seems to work fairly well for me… but I’m not very active either.

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Competition, reputation and federation. In essence, retention.

  1. Competition

There’s a ton of social news aggregators out there and most of them are much better at advertising their site than the entire lemmyverse together.

  1. Reputation

Lemmy has a reputation among many as a far left, for some - extremist platform. A large mastodon user that boosts accounts actively warned about Lemmy in a pretty bad way a while back. The other day a public representative for a company withdrew their community the same day they created it due to the public backlash.

  1. Federation

It’s difficult to grasp how federation, and particularly lemmy federation works for people unfamiliar with the concept. They might get a wrong impression of the lemmyverse after visiting just one instance, not realizing it’s only a part of it. Or they could be stuck on an instance with few posts that interests them.

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The other day a public representative for a company withdrew their community the same day they created it due to the public backlash.

This was probably Bitwarden on the Sopuli instance right? Could you perhaps share a link discussing this in detail?

we had to remove the Bitwarden instance for the time being, to review the flood of responses coming in to us from the community regarding information about the purpose behind Lemmy via the creators

What the heck? It’s free software and a specific detail about free software is that it may be used for any purpose regardless of the authors ideas. That’s some serious fucked up witch hunt.

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https://lemmy.ml/post/78808

I remember that post and ooof the cringe was hardcore. I don’t understand how people belived that shit.

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it may be used for any purpose regardless of the authors ideas.

To be honest, I haven’t seen the developers put any demands or anything on what people use it for. Just look at Wolfballs and how it’s on https://join-lemmy.org/instances despite their home server blocking them. I think that’s very respectable.

That’s some serious fucked up witch hunt.

I don’t think so. It’s just that a bad reputation lasts a long time, and the lemmy platform have had some rowdy representation for a while. Again, the developers have taken sensible steps when they started promoting Sopuli and Beehaw on the join-lemmy page, two seemingly wholesome instances that welcomes anyone.

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Such a shame…

I was even excited to see them join a community as small as ours.

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I know, it really saddened me. We need to discuss these things, work together to change the federated culture and become attractive to new users. But it feels like everywhere I look, people either want to compete directly or they can’t see the big picture.

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wait What happened?

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About a week ago Bitwarden created an official community on the instance sopuli. But now it seems the community has been removed by Bitwarden due to public backlash.

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Why

If youre looking for a more general purpose instance, try out beehaw.org

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Wait, so lemmy is far left? Please tell me it’s not

It is, most innovation is made by people who want progression in the world.

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  1. Lemmy is newer than Reddit. Reddit has been up for over 15 years.
  2. Lemmy is a Reddit clone but less well known, thus, whatever advantages it has over Reddit, you can pretty much assume anyone who comes to Lemmy is someone who was on Reddit and saw some reason to leave. Or even still uses Reddit but is trying their hand here too. At least for now.
  3. Thus, the Lemmy userbase will, at least within the near future, be a small subset of current or former Redditors.

To me, the issue is how politics flood the site. If you browse all, 90% of the content is communism. Many posts just low effort crap or propaganda. I don’t come here to read about politics, but about the rest of stuff such as games, science, entertainment… but almoat everything is politics. And it really turns me (and surely many other people) off. I’m seriously considering deleting my account. Not to go back to reddit, I won’t go back there. But if the alternative is this… I rather live without it.

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Just move to another instance or subscribe to politically neutral topics.

I browse subscribed communities and don’t experience this.

Sometimes I like to browse /all so I can discover new communities. I confess tho i’m less and less interested in doing that every day it passes.

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Then go subscribe to non-political content and browse “Subscribed”.

https://welcome.nrsk.no/communities/ ;)

To discover new non political content sometimes you must browse /all and it’s not a cool experience at all.

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lol did you even try the link?

This whole thread proves my point. Goodbye Lemmy.

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I would urge anyone on the verge of quitting Lemmy due to this to check out either beehaw.org or sopuli.xyz. There’s a (still small but) active effort in providing general instances and contributing general content in a less politically hostile environment.

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I just block the accounts that spam that kind of stuff, it’s not like I’m gonna engage with them anyway so…

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I know! Like it’s annoying. If a question asks something like "who’s the worst person " there’s always some Donald trump comment. Like I came here for fun man

This user seems to have been banned from the instance for this comment with the reason “No trumpites allowed”. Could I get some clarification on how this decision is made? As far as I can tell, it was a totally arbitrary decision with no basis in the code of conduct. For that matter, they are not necessarily a Trump fan, since many people simply dislike how Trump-centric political discourse has become.

yeah it’s weird, they didn’t even get a warning? What kind of moderation is that??

Also yeah the comment is somewhat ambiguous I think.

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Also came to realize it just now. The log mentions ‘mod’ instead of ‘admin’ if any of that helps.

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Because the admins here are thin-skinned children who do not practice what they preach.

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So subrscribe to communities that are about fun :)

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I know! Like it’s annoying. If a question asks something like "who’s the worst person " there’s always some Donald trump comment. Like I came here for fun man

Yeah, I started using Discord more tbh.

We all were using reddit at some point without thinking about alternatives. Once thinking about alternatives, there are a lot of reddit alternatives out there.

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Which Ones

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Off the top of my head – There is also td-win and voat (which are like, Reddit for neo-nazis) and hexbear (which is like, Reddit for leftists who lack the social skills to be around even other leftists)

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Imma check both of this out thank you

There’s also Aether, which is a P2P reddit-like program, which will have a form of democracy for community mods when a community gets large enough.

Chicken or the egg problem. Many people want a lot of (quality) content and diverse content comes from many people.

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I love how the people in this thread with the biggest issues with lemmygrad specifically are the people who got banned for bigotry or racism in some form when they came over and chatted shit.

Clarifying question: what do you consider a lot of people?

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I guess at least 200k

Do you know about mastodon? It’s not like reddit but it’s like twitter and it has way more than 200k users and uses the same protocol as lemmy!

In my opinion, the UI doesn’t help. It just looks bad to my eyes. Everything is too big and screaming at me. I feel anxious when coming to this site, which sounds weird but ya…

have you tried different themes? I really like the lemmy look.

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To be honest Reddit shows more tits and big asses than Lemmy. Maybe people have some issue to leave that Paradise. 🤭

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Is there porn on here too?

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lemmy.ml has a no-porn rule, I don’t know about the other ones but I haven’t seen a porn community yet.

Damn, we need an NSFW instance.

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I don’t mind a naughty instance, it’s easy to block. Just don’t start mixing regular content with NSFW on the same server, be it sexy or gory. It would be a nightmare to moderate federation for regular instances and it would be so much easier to just block the whole server.

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I don’t even think it would be too bad to mix it on a server since users have the possibilities to block whole communities (in contrast to servers which can only be done by admins for all users). Though I find your concern regarding moderation relatable. Maybe a feature for the admin panel would be nice where you can specify comminities/servers that are not shown in the All timeline or where all posts are marked as NSFW by default (if there is not such a feature yet)

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porn isn’t illegal though?

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There is porn that is legal in one country but illegal in another. And there are people that don’t want to host porn on their servers for other reasons.

Afaik only text is replicated and images are only hosted at the server (more specifically the pictrs instance) where it was uploaded. However, I don’t know about the legal implications of linking to possibly illegal content.

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I never thought about that, seems sound to me. Thanks for pointing that out.

but the same reasoning works for a lot of other content (about pirating, privacy, hacking tools etc).

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That’s true, and if an instance starts to share walkthroughs on how to i.e. create bombs or guns etc. every admin should question themselves if they should federate with the server.

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How would you make one? What exactly is an instance? I think a dm or chat room and voice chat room sound good to

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A loosely moderated place to ask open ended questions

If your post is

  1. Open ended
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  3. Not regarding lemmy support (c/lemmy_support)
  4. not ad nauseam inducing (please make sure its a question that would be new to most members)

it’s welcome here!

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